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1  General Category / All Things Lincoln Assassination / Re: Where did George Atzerodt live? on: May 26, 2014, 07:17:57 PM

"Booth liked to manipulate everything, and when he figured out Atzerodt wasn't going to help him, he implicated him...

 A big reason why in my mind why JWB  was the one who truly deserved  the title of:  “Murderer, Coward, Loser, and Drunk” more than George.  Angry

Amen, my brother, Amen...
2  General Category / All Things Lincoln Assassination / Re: Where did George Atzerodt live? on: May 26, 2014, 05:44:12 PM
Thanks Randal. I agree that it couldn't have been Herold at the Kirkwood because John Fletcher ran into Herold after he followed George to the Kirkwood at 10:00pm. When Herold saw Fletcher, he took off up 14th and turned right on F Street, right on the heels of Booth. Based on the timeline, Herold can be eliminated as the person attempting to open the door of Atzerodt's room.

Fletcher said that he saw Atzerodt go into the Kirkwood House (just after ten) and when he came out about five minutes later, Fletcher watched him as he followed along D street as he turned up 10th Street towards Ford's Theatre. He was in no hurry. Fletcher called the time at about 10:20pm. I'm beginning to think it was at this time that George Atzerodt saw the commotion a few blocks away at Ford's Theatre, and realizing what had just
happened, took off towards the Navy Yard Bridge.

Dan, he probably could have walked faster!  Cheesy
Something strange was going on with the key(s) to Atzerodt's room. It's obvious that, if it was George, his
room key didn't work. Booth was there at 5pm, Herold was there at 6pm asking about the key and again after their meeting Booth shortly afterwards. Then Atzerodt has to get his key again? Did some one switch his key?

I think Herold left the pistol and the knife in the room after he showed it to Atzerodt, along with the coat. (Implicate those who do not cooperate Wink) None of the things found in the room belonged to Atzerodt! I don't think Booth and Herold wanted George to get back in his room because he would have found the things that Herold had showed him and would have disposed of them. I think they set him up! And George, being  a bit liquored up, may have thought he was at the wrong room.

I'm not sure why he would go back to the Kirkwood other than that Booth told him to be at the Navy Yard Bridge and Fletcher said that he would hear of a present about 11:00. A present meaning he would hear of something special. Maybe George was told 11:00 and he was hurrying his last stop at the Kirkwood (for whatever reason) before heading to the Navy Yard Bridge.
3  General Category / All Things Lincoln Assassination / Re: Where did George Atzerodt live? on: May 24, 2014, 06:32:54 PM
I'm not sure, but there was something going on with the key to Atzerodt's room because David Herold asked
about George's key at the Kirkwood, and again after meeting with Booth. I'll bet that the large knife and the pistol, along with the other articles, were planted by Herold. Had George been able to get back in his room he would have taken those weapons and disposed of them like he did with his own. When Marshall Murray told Atzerodt about the articles found in his room at the Kirkwood, George replied, "I have no things there"..

I'm attempting to put some sort of a timeline together.

 Booth was seen on the steps of the Kirkwood at 5 pm [/i] by John Deveney, who stated;
"I am well aquainted with John Wilkes Booth. I saw Booth Friday evening 14th April 1865 about five o'clock on the steps of the Kirkwood House in Washington."
                                                                         John A. Denevey ) 4;264-69, PW, Poore, I;34, Pitman 38)
At half past five or near six o'clock, I went to the Kirkwood House and they told me a young man had called for me. Herold came in and said Booth and Wood wanted to see me immediately. He then asked if I had my key. He wanted to go to my room and show me something. We went to the room and he drawed a large knife and a large pistol out of his boot and said let us go and see Booth and Wood.
We went to their house on 9th Street ( Herndon House) and then they proposed the murder to me. He ( Booth) then asked me if I was willing myself to assist them. I said that I did not come here for that.. Booth Then told me to get a horse and stop near the Eastern Branch. ( Navy Yard Bridge)                                    
We then came out and Herold wanted me to go to the Kirkwood he asked me if I had the key of the room. I told him no. I did not go to the hotel and we parted ways.
                                                                                                                       George Atzerodt
 Fletcher of Nailor's Stable
About 7 o'clock in the evening of the 14th[/i] he (George Atzerodt) went out with his mare and stayed three quarters of an hour and returned. 7:45 He asked me to take a glass of ale with him, and I did so. In coming back he spoke as if he were half tight and said I would hear of a present about 11 o'clock. I did not understand what he meant. He said he would be back at 10 o'clock (when he returned for his mare at 10:00pm)I followed him down the avenue, got as far as the Kirkwood House, stayed a few minutes (time; approx.10:10-10:15) and mounted the mare again, riding along D Street then turning into 10th Street. (towards Ford's Theatre)
                                                                                                                         John Fletcher interesting note; Mrs. R.R. Jones at the Kirkwood stated that just after 10:00 she heard someone run rapidly past her room in the  direction of Atzerodt's room. He tried to open the doors of three different rooms and not succeeding, he came back on a run and went downstairs.
 Could that person have been George Atzerodt?
4  General Category / All Things Lincoln Assassination / Re: Where did George Atzerodt live? on: May 24, 2014, 05:44:22 AM
E. N. Spencer, the clerk at the Kirkwood who gave Atzerodt his key, said it was 8:00 pm on Friday. Shouldn't he be returning the key at 8 instead retrieving it? Spencer relates the incident to the following event:

 He remembers well standing on the steps near the door of the Kirkwood as Gov. Farewell approached the house on a run and said " The President has been shot at Fords Theatre"

Randal, do you have anything on  E.N Spencer?
5  General Category / All Things Lincoln Assassination / Re: Where did George Atzerodt live? on: May 23, 2014, 09:09:18 AM
Poor guy. The authorities wanted to kill him before they even tried him. When US Marshall Robert Murray took Atzerodt into custody at Relay house, he stated that;

" I found the prisoner Atzerodt handcuffed, Gen. Tyler ordered his handcuffs taken off and I put on a pair of our handcuffs on him myself. I happened to pinch Atzerodt while putting the iron on his left hand and he snapped at me "DON'T PINCH ME!"  Angry   ...I told him that I would pinch his neck before he was a week older."

What I'd like to know is why George would pick up the key to his room at the Kirkwood just before the assassination? It wasn't like he was coming back, unless he thought that this was going to be another failed attempt like all of the others. He never returned the key.

6  General Category / All Things Lincoln Assassination / Re: Where did George Atzerodt live? on: May 21, 2014, 07:05:51 AM
Hi Dan,
Thanks for reading my post. I know how much you like everything Atzerodt so I'd like to throw
in a couple of points about George that you won't find in any books about the assassination. It's
 not really anything "new" (the information has been in the M599 LAS File for nearly 150 years-
it's just that nobody looked at it.. Grin) but after Booth shot Lincon, George claimed that he road  
to the Washington Navy Yard and in his own words said " I went up to Woods to the Navy Yard
at about 12 o'clock after the assassination. Wood and Payne were two of the aliases used by fellow
conspirator Lewis Powell. Powell's horse was found near the Navy Yard about an hour later.
As for George, he hopped on  the cars near the Navy Yard, but before doing so, he returned the horse
he rented that day. On the morning following the assassination the stable owner found that the
animal had been returned during the night.
George has been labeled an attempted murderer, coward, loser and a drunk , but at the end of the
day he was pretty good customer!  Cheesy

 A few blocks away near 6th street and Pennsylvania Ave. is where George said he got on the cars.
7  General Category / All Things Lincoln Assassination / Re: Where did George Atzerodt live? on: May 20, 2014, 10:17:35 AM
Thanks Randal. Just an educated guess though. I find it very interesting that Atzerodt wasn't living "in town" at
Port Tobacco.

Also,I can't help but to think that Frederick Stone inserted himself at the Trial of the Conspirators for a
good reason. If any of this boat business had been brought up during the trial, Stone would have been the one
needing an attorney.  Grin

8  General Category / All Things Lincoln Assassination / Where did George Atzerodt live? on: May 19, 2014, 12:57:21 PM

George Atzerodt operated a carriage shop in the town of Port Tobacco but no one has actually figured out where he was living with his common-law wife Rose Wheeler. A clue to the location of a tenant house that George and Rose may have rented can be found among statements of Port Tobacco Tailor, Nicholas Crangle. Crangle was rounded up with other Port Tobacco residents after the assassination, and when questioned made the following statements;

I live in Port Tobacco; I am a Tailor - Own no house there, but stayed at my mother-in-law's;- Atzerodt's shop was 1 1/2 miles from where she (Mrs. Wheeler) lived last- She (Mrs. Wheeler) lived 1 1/2 miles from my mother-in-law- Atzerodt never brought anyone to Mrs. Wheeler's to my knowledge; Mrs. Wheeler did not own the place where she lived. Think she paid the rent; (Evid. pg 402-3-4)

Port Tobacco resident Edwin Middleton;
I saw Herold at Port Tobacco twice; When Herold came there he was generally alone; Don't know of his visiting Mrs. Wheeler's house;

If Crangle's statement correct, we should be able to follow the main roads out of Port Tobacco for about 1 1/2 miles and look for a tenant house. On two of the three main roads out of Port Tobacco I found Stone family properties at the 1 1/2 mile mark. ( circled in green on the map). Stone's Throw, located across the street from Thomas Stone House, is now the home of John and Roberta Wearmouth and the other was Idaho, home of Frederick Stone, attorney for David Herold and Doctor Samuel Mudd. While both are former Wheeler properties, [ the home of Frederick Stone had a tenant house tucked in the woods.

more about Stone's Throw here;

It was here in Port Tobacco that John Surratt secured the sevices of Frederick Stone in order to purchase a boat that would be used in the abduction of President Lincoln. In his confession, George Atzerodt revealed that Dick Smoot and James Brawner sold the boat to Surratt and when Richard "Dick" Smoot wrote his book years later, he confirmed this by stating--

"I went with Surratt to the office of Ex- Judge Stone and there placed in the hands of Judge Stone one hundred and twenty-five dollars in trust for me." (see pg 6. Shall we Gather at the River; Randal Berry)

The boat is immediately turned over to Atzerodt by Surratt.

What a can of worms we would have if George Atzerodt was living with Rose Wheeler in this tenant house on Frederick Stone's farm.  Shocked

(more about Idaho farm here)


9  General Category / All Things Lincoln Assassination / Fire in T.B. on: May 05, 2014, 11:39:33 AM
The former home of Joseph Eli Hunt has been burned to the ground. The chimney(s) are barely visible in the distance. Hopefully we'll have some details soon.  Sad

Maryland Historic Inventory; Hunt house
10  General Category / All Things Lincoln Assassination / Re: Tonight's the Night! on: April 28, 2014, 04:57:58 AM
I'm pretty sure they won't have any that going on in the theatre. Looks like a lot of events are already planned
and I'm sure there will be many more.

On a side note Randal, I hope you and your family are okay after those tornados whipped through Little Rock.   Sad
11  General Category / All Things Lincoln Assassination / Re: Tonight's the Night! on: April 26, 2014, 12:09:40 PM
Dan, it looks like a vigil will be held at Ford's Theatre April 14 & 15 2015. The musical Freedom's Song Abraham Lincoln and the Civil War will run from March until mid- May 2015.
Go here..

Randal, they might have a gunshot or two in this one.  Grin
12  General Category / All Things Lincoln Assassination / Re: Rich Hill on: April 18, 2014, 08:44:16 AM
You're welcome.
It's one of my favorite stops on the tour as well, so it should be an interesting project to record. The workmen
have a long way to go to restore the house to it's original state, but it will be beautiful when their finished with it.

I read somewhere that the roof was bright red or green. I'm not sure which, but hopefully they won't choose
red if they go with a tin roof. Think it might have been in Oldroyd's "Narrative of a walk"   ..not sure  Huh  
13  General Category / All Things Lincoln Assassination / Re: Rich Hill on: April 17, 2014, 09:52:25 AM
SUCCESS!  Grin Grin

Read the full article here..

This will be a great addition to the John Wilkes Booth escape tours. I will try to post photos and videos throughout the restoration process.
14  General Category / All Things Lincoln Assassination / Re: Alias Watson, Howell & Slater on: April 17, 2014, 07:15:29 AM
More info on Cawood and Bryan families in the above post.  Smiley
15  General Category / All Things Lincoln Assassination / Re: Thomas Davis on: April 13, 2014, 12:49:20 PM
The grey roan of Herold was probably exhausted, which would have contributed to the swollen shoulders. The
bay mare was very lame from an injury which could have happened in a fall.

"That one of their horses had fallen by which one of the men had broken his leg." Doctor S. Mudd

Dr.Mudd also stated that Booth was covered with mud in many places, and the appearence of his clothes would in other respects indicate that he had been riding very rapidly.

He continued still to suffer and complained of severe pain in the back, especially when being moved. In my
opinion, the pain in the back may arise from riding. I judge that in this case it originated from his fall and also from riding, as he seemed to be prostrated. He sometimes breathed very shortly & as if exhausted


Peanut was 5 feet from Booth and never reported seeing anything that would indicate that Booth was injured.
Not a limp, hobble, grunt ..nothing. And yet, he's doing all of these things like running, jumping onto his horse,
hitting and kicking my-man Peanut, all with broken leg and a wrenched back? Nah, I think the horse clobbered
him   ....and I really hope it squashed the snot of him.   Smiley

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